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Daniel Sokol Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Sunday, April 6, 2008 at 8:55:02 PM. Email: gm3dsokol@msn.com. From: Annapolis, MD in United States My Military Service was/is with the Navy Current Military Status: In Reserves Current or Last Duty Station: DDG 75 Years of Service - From: 2001 to present, Division: FIRST Division or Other: First To Strike. Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: After an email conversation with the yeoman it seems little clarification on some of my statements is need, if the yeoman needs to edit this he is welcome.I was active for 5 years, but because of an injury I was transferred to reserves, being one of the "mission critical" persons. The new BDU style uniform is dangerous, as you walk a passageway there are a number of things that you can get caught on. Also if man overboard, you are perfectly camoflouged in the water, as a trained lookout and SAR, boat crew that is NOT helpful. I would have gone with haze grey BDU's, for VBSS, boardings, it would have been perfect. As for my other complaint, I am damn proud of my crossed cannons and no Admiral can take that away. I'll explain... As far as rates go I will put it like this when checking out of my command at facility security at Mid Atlantic Regional Maintenance Center(MARMC) formerlly SIMA I was wearing my dress blues and the CO said wow your a gunnersmate I didnt realize you guys are stil around. Its all about political correctness now, IT, SK, cook,QM, and especially the engineers all look at the combat rates like we dont need to be there. We had a supply chief that while we were conducting shore fire support for the marines going ashore, refused to order a replacement firing pin for 5 inch gun because we were killing "innocent people". We were keeping the marines alive! So thats my problem with the new uniforms make everyone look like a clerk and all you have is a bunch of clerks, but for us in combat ratings that go out in small boats for security or boardings that get shot at we are fiercely proud of being "sea warriors". As mentioned earlier about political correctness, it has seeped deeply into the navy, to the point where combat rates have more in common with marines than sailors. Sorry for the rant any question please email. To those who served in other rates and maybe offended by my differentiation between"combat rates" and everyone else, I do apologize but unfortunately the navy, for the most part, doesnt like or want to fight. As a side note I just finished a really good book, "The Last Stand of The Tin Can Sailors." Its a pity more sailors dont remember or care to remember that in a fight everyone, not just the gunner's or the bosun's fight. its everyone together. Fair Winds and Following Seas Dan Sokol

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Ken 'Jake' Jaccard Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Sunday, January 27, 2008 at 7:16:26 PM. Email: kenjaccard@juno.com. From: Winchester, TN in United States My Military Service was/is with the Navy Current or Last Duty Station: U.S.S. HANCOCK CVA-19 Years of Service - From: 1962 to 1964, Division: X (Captain's Office) Division or Other: . Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: I think the new uniforms are not appropriate to the original Navy uniform utility. Each Traditional uniform was designed to be FLOATATION DEVICES, including the White hat. Try to keep yourself boyant using a baseball cap, piss cutter or 8 point hat. The traditional dungarees were adequate and needed no change at all. The BDU's are in no way appropriate to a Sailor; what does he need camo for? Unless he's hiding from a Captain's Mass. I'm at least glad they kept the Cracker Jack uniform. To lose it would be an affront to every Sailor that ever sailed in the United States Navy. For the new uniform, the only handsome uniform they came up with was the working blue blouse and pants with baseball cap as the Coasties use. Not sure if the Navy has these or not, so I can't comment on them much. NO PISS CUTTER!!! That belongs to the Marines, not the Sailor. To use them is an affront to both Navy and Marines! So now you have my 2 cents... Jake

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Dick Prescott Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on , January 26, 2008 at 4:12:41 PM. Email: Lions@speedshopusainc.com. From: LaHabra, CA in United States Current or Last Duty Station: N.A.B. CORONADO Years of Service - From: 1965 to 1967, Division: S-1 (SUPPLY) Division or Other: ACB-1 ALPHA CO.. Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: Jake - thought I'd drop you a line on this uniform change one more time, now that I've had some time to think about it. In my Navy career I've many changes, some of them were good, some were terrible, some just unexplainable. It seemed for awhile that changes were being made "just because." I think the worst was the pullover work shirt and blue pants. They never looked good and always seemed wrinkled. Having gone to Seabees after my tour on Hancock, we wore utility greens for almost every occasion, except full dress which were still our old dress blues. It is my opinion, for whatever its worth, that our sailors be dressed in the most distinctive uniforms we can give them to represent the U S Navy. Our men and women can go anywhere in the world and be recognized at a glance as American sailors. Being the largest, most formidable Navy the world has ever known, it is represented by that uniform and it always should be. Dick Prescott

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Jonathan Jakob Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 3:55:11 PM. Email: jonnyj17qm2000@yahoo.com. From: San Antonio, TX in United States Current or Last Duty Station: USS Ford (FFG-54) Years of Service - From: 2000 to 2004, Division: QUARTERMASTER [OPERATIONS] Division or Other: . Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: I sort of like the new uniforms. I can certanly say that its better than those stupid cover alls we have had to with stand for the past couple of years. I hope they get rid of those. As far as the dress uniforms are concerned, they arent doing away with the dress uniforms as far as the cracker jacks, in a way improving them. We all know whether you served 4 years or 30 we all gain a little weight and get all pissed off when we cant squeze into those traditonal cracker jacks. So instead of tying up the back they are puting a ziper for all us pt slackers. If you know what I mean. As far as the BDU's; I believe it's a plus. Like I mentioned before, I was always envious of all the other branches because most shipboard commands make their people wear coveralls. I was one of the fortunate ones who got to wear the old BDU's because of my job, but now I hope it's manditory for all. As for the color scheme, it could be worse. I also like the fact that E-6 and below have the whole kaki option too. It's not realy going against tradition because if you remember in the ww2 time period we wore kakis or a form of it. Also we had the eraser civer that all the E-7 and above wore. I just think it's good that the Navy is keeping up with the times. It's always good to keep up with the times. Ok thats enough. Sorry shipmates for the poor spelling! See you guys on the flip side. QM2 (SW/AW) Jonathan Jakob

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Michael Hesser Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on , January 19, 2008 at 4:05:51 AM. Email: aisg@bellsouth.net. From: Middleburg, FL in United States Current or Last Duty Station: New Port, RI Years of Service - From: 1998 to 1999, Division: FIRST Division or Other: . Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: I think that the CNo wants all the cyurent Saliors to look like Marines, so the can be deployed with out any press noticinig the influx of personal.

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Cecil Pete Scott Jr. Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 at 11:06:40 AM. Email: psrwhiskey@bellsouth.net. From: Mobile, AL in United States Current or Last Duty Station: USS Sea Devil (SSN664) Years of Service - From: 1962 to 1986, Division: QUARTERMASTER [OPERATIONS] Division or Other: . Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: I did 9 years Navy went 4 years Coast Guard and then 11 Navy. This new uniform reminds me of the Coast Guard uniform. You know, the people that work for the same people that run Amtrack and Greyhound. When I came back to the Navy again in 1976 I was confronted with the "new" Navy uniform, where we all looked like chiefs. No one wanted them then and I'll bet not many want them now. Then we went back to traditional uniforms and all were happy. Why don't the people who don't have to wear a uniform in washington DC leave it at rest. Let us be sailors.

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Robert J.Hedgeman Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on , January 12, 2008 at 2:22:23 PM. Email: FleetHQtrs@nycap.rr.com. From: Delmar, NY in United States Current or Last Duty Station: USS Little Rock CLG 4 Years of Service - From: 1964 to 1968, Division: SECOND Division or Other: BM 2. Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: I DO NOT LIKE ANY OF THEM.Who's idea are these Haloween costumes?

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Chris Hunt Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Saturday, December 14, 2007 at 10:29:40 PM. Email: huntmtb@sbcglobal.net. From: Cleveland, OH in United States Current or Last Duty Station: NAS Willow Grove Years of Service - From: 1991 to 1995, Division: NOT LISTED OTHER Detachment/Division or Other: HSL-94. Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: I'm glad to see the U.S. Navy has finally come to their senses. I think the new uniforms are long overdue. The old bell bottom dungaree pants along with the blue shirts made us look like prison convicts.(Why do you think we weren't allowed to wear them off base!)The dixie cups were pretty stupid also. They reminded me of a dogs water bowl and along with the working whites, they were "impossible" to keep clean. The chukka boots or whatever they were called were garbage also. The only shoes I ever wore that I lost the feeling in the tips of my toes(and No! they were not too small) and also they had absolutely no ankle support. Thank God I got to ditch those for flight deck boots. Glad they kept the traditional blue jumper. I always liked that uniform, you were always proud to wear it, even if it was a pain in the ass to get into. They seriously need to think about "**** canning" the white jumper and white bell bottom pants also. That uniform is a "polyester nightmare". Everytime I wore it I felt like a throw-back to the 1970's Disco Era. All in all, I think the new uniforms are a considerable improvement. Sorry the changes didn't occur during my time in service.

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Yulonda Gatewood Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Saturday, December 14, 2007 at 12:30:02 PM. Email: yulieworld@yahoo.com. From: memphis, TN in United States Current or Last Duty Station: NSA Mid-South Years of Service - From: 1989 to present, Division: S-4 (SUPPLY) Division or Other: . Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: I agree that the uniforms as they are look very nice and professional (when properly worn). However, practically speaking, I have cursed the sew-on chevron for both the expense of upkeep and the timeit takes to get them done. I have to say for that reason, I am in favor of the pin-on insignias. I have had to spend $15 for a single uniform. That is hard for junior sailor's. I learned to love the cami's while attached to the Seabees. I just love the ease of them. They can be expensive to get together but they are still a better trade than the dungarees of yesterday or the working uniform that replaced them. Now, I have to comment from a woman's point of view. The uniforms have never fit well, and I will give credit to the the power that be for attempting to offer a range of sizes for us to choose from. BUT, they still suck. I am 5'9" tall and 140 pounds. the pants that I have to get close 4 inches above my navel. I look like Steve Urkel in them. All of them, the whites the blues and the dungarees. Also the helmet we have to wear is a mistake if I have ever seen one. Just like one of the previous comments, there is no place to keep one in the Seabag. I ruin them as soon as I get them, unless I keep it in the hatbox and who has room for one of those. I, for one, welcome the change in covers. Every uniform has it's place in our fine Navy tradition. As times change, we too have to adapt or be left behind. Today's Navy is more challenged and diverse than ever. I was thinking just the other day as I ran across the street to go to work that I have never owned an umbrella. And the memory of a pier sentry getting soaked popped into my mind. We have always said that the peacoat does not keep you warm (the rain coat is better) but a hood would be nice. I am glad that someone is listening. I am glad that no sailor has to catch their death of cold in order for them to get what they need to do their jobs ... better. I am not thrilled with what is in store, but it is better that what we have now and although it is a radical change intheminds of some, it is a needed change. You'll see. It's a good thing.

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AWCS David Crossan Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 10:34:11 AM. Email: SEAHAWKWTI@aol.com. From: Huntington, WV in United States Current or Last Duty Station: Navy Recruiting District Ohio Years of Service - From: 1989 to Still Active, Division: NOT LISTED OTHER Detachment/Division or Other: HSM / HSL . Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: Former and Current or Sailors, It is with great pride and respect we serve or served in our United States Navy. The Navy Working Uniform (NWU) replaces the Utilities (former Dungarees) and Coveralls (Navy Blue Coveralls). The New Navy Service Uniform replaces Working Whites, and Working Blues. Traditional Cracker Jack (Dress White / Dress Blue) remains. There are several reasons for the uniform changes. 1) - Cost for Sailors. These new uniforms are tough, show less dirt, and rank changes are inexpensive. 2) - One Team - One Look. Current or ly, there are how many different combinations of uniforms? Corpsmen, Dental Technicians, Master at Arms, Seabee's, Surface, Subsurface, and Aviation communities all have some different combination of what is worn while in a working environment. To the Cillivan community, we're confused. There are times when I get confused on who does what and what service they are in, on our Navy Bases. 3). Uniformity through the Armed Forces. As we continue to change how we do business, in dealing with today's Navy Missions, and the future one's, we are working more closely than ever with our other services, and in varying roles. We still stand out among those services based on the color differences of the NWU's, and in the pants and uniform accruments on the new Navy Service Uniform. There are those that might say allowing E-1 to E-6 to wear a Khaki shirt is not appropriate. I would remind those that the CPO Community began wearing Khakis in WWII. Before that, we wore Blue-Shirts (same as E-6 and below). Leadership and the Task Force Uniform department has done extensive research. There were Junior and Senior Enlisted, as well as Junior and Senior Officers that participate in these projects, as well as make up the panels that make the recommendations to the CNO / MCPON on these issues. Although I was not one of them, I know my thoughts were represented during the process, because our Navy asked all Navy to participate in surveys, opinionating the different versions being tested in the program. The United States Navy is not about a single uniform. There are traditions in the United States Navy that date back to our First Uniforms, and it will never go away. LEADERSHIP. Unwaivering, dedicated, and forward thinking. We have the responsibility to do the best we can, for our Navy, and our Sailors. We do so with our technology, our ships, our submarines, our aircraft, our facilities, our sailors, and our families. Why not our uniforms? Take care of one-another, and I hope to see you around the Fleet, or in our Communities!

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Don Lamoreaux Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Sunday, October 7, 2007 at 5:17:56 PM. Email: comdexman58@hotmail.com. From: Las Vegas, NV in United States Current or Last Duty Station: USS Hancock CVA-19 ('62-'64) Years of Service - From: 1962 to 1964, Division: X (ADMIN) Division or Other: Naval Support Activity, Danang, Vietnam. Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: The new uniforms look to much like Air Force or Marines. Old Navy does look sharp, is distictive, & is tradition. The only thing to add would be cammise if you are shore based, state side (choice of dungarees or cammees) or overseas (shore based). Still like the eagle on P>O.'s. Still an anchor clanker at heart.

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AOCS Dan Blevins Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Saturday, October 5, 2007 at 8:35:59 AM. Email: psalmzinger@aol.com. From: Charleston, SC in United States Current or Last Duty Station: USS Teddy Roosevelt CVN-71 Years of Service - From: 1963 to 1992, Division: WEAPONS or Other: . Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: Although the Cracker Jack uniform was my most favored looking uniform..it was basically a disfunctional piece of crap.Little slit pockets, 13 buttons to take a leak..hot, stinking wool? And the 'jumper' was akin to getting into (and out of)a straight jacket. And those damnable unstowable dingy Dixie Cups? I preferred the black flat hats with the US Navy ribbon. My company (512)in Great Lakes, 1963, was the last company to be service issued the flat hat. Ain't no place in a functional sailors locker for ceremonial costumes (as was the Cracker Jacks). As a Chief found that the 'piss cutter' is far superior to a Frisbie on your head. Haven't had a ship sank since WWII, so much for bell-bottoms. Todays sailors are more susceptible to being incinerated by a missile strike or nuke, than sinking. I actually liked the light weight coverals for ship board maintenance and why hats at all? Shaved heads or birth control haircuts preferable. I like the Grunt Look, with the crows on the sleeves. Khaki shirts are superior to dirt susceptible white shirts. The BDU's are very liberty friendly, with lots of pockets, would lose the paint-chip cammy color, for a blue/grey Luftwaffe blue. For those who retain sentimental memories of the 20th century sailor, the sailing days are over. We are talking stealth warships in the 21st century. Smok'em if you got'em. The Oracle of Seafaring Wisdom

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Garrison Daniel Logged in to leave Comments on 'New Navy Uniform' on Thursday, October 4, 2007 at 8:56:09 AM. Email: danielg1@fulton.k12.ga.us. From: norcross , GA in United States Current or Last Duty Station: MCAS El Toro Cal Years of Service - From: 1978 to 1992, Division: V-1 (AIR) Division or Other: Marine Aviator MAG 11- Visitor to Hancock. Comments on the New Navy Uniforms: Former Sea Cadet: crackerjack uniforms stand out, look great. ADM Zumwalt tried to change before. Sad day for the navy. Looks like a cross between Marines and the new coastie uniforms.